tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6601965449271960079.post3296936700989647806..comments2023-08-13T15:39:39.144-07:00Comments on The Crows' Nest: When They Say.....We Think.....Kathttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13670331855264293102noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6601965449271960079.post-29268945295111306132014-12-08T11:16:55.408-08:002014-12-08T11:16:55.408-08:00This is exactly why I've never joined a women&...This is exactly why I've never joined a women's group or gone to a women's retreat! Having known since age 16 that I'm unable to have children, I've come of age in a way that has made me ultra-cautious about anything faith-based that is geared solely towards women. I totally agree with everything in this post and I think it would be wonderful if women's groups were advertised more specifically. Then maybe I wouldn't be so cautious. And I could come out of hiding, so to speak.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6601965449271960079.post-40835207974893549502014-12-08T10:22:22.743-08:002014-12-08T10:22:22.743-08:00This post really spoke to me. Hard to read, becaus...This post really spoke to me. Hard to read, because I empathize with it. Before I started making friends with IFers this year, all of my opportunities to socialize with my close friends went like this. They are all mothers. They all speak in terms of their tangible motherhood. To say that it divided us is an understatement. And to say that I want to base all of my social interaction on relating to IF is not accurate either. It's just a tricky road to travel. I'm always searching for medium. I am glad that you wrote all of this out though, for the awareness it can cause on both sides of female spiritual needs.Conceiving Hopehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03770621765962940873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6601965449271960079.post-48490004249276958172014-09-23T06:46:06.910-07:002014-09-23T06:46:06.910-07:00Oh hun, That sounds so hard and my heart bleeds fo...Oh hun, That sounds so hard and my heart bleeds for you! I am so greatful and I will think of younext time I want to complain when they jump all over me as I am on the phone. Instead I will get off the phone, cover them in kisses and be more aware of how blessed I am! Shaunna BowlerAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6601965449271960079.post-73678365788367158842014-09-18T06:40:09.290-07:002014-09-18T06:40:09.290-07:00Thank you for the prayers! Thank you for the prayers! Kathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13670331855264293102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6601965449271960079.post-50115041355120290682014-09-18T06:39:23.847-07:002014-09-18T06:39:23.847-07:00Thank you for sharing your experience it really do...Thank you for sharing your experience it really does help. Even though we have been living w/ infertility long term I thought oh I should be able to handle this by now. I have peace and acceptance about our infertility but I still think there are going to be those scenarios that just make you uncomfortable. I do have a book club that I love going to so thank God for that :) Kathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13670331855264293102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6601965449271960079.post-30578129572755784212014-09-18T06:36:37.278-07:002014-09-18T06:36:37.278-07:00Thanks so much and thank you for sharing your expe...Thanks so much and thank you for sharing your experience! It helps to know I am not just being super sensitive. Kathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13670331855264293102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6601965449271960079.post-12548107509770449372014-09-18T06:34:12.120-07:002014-09-18T06:34:12.120-07:00Thanks Stephanie! Thanks Stephanie! Kathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13670331855264293102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6601965449271960079.post-50832987929936865142014-09-18T06:33:40.284-07:002014-09-18T06:33:40.284-07:00Haha I meant timed s.ex not times. Ugh stupid ipad...Haha I meant timed s.ex not times. Ugh stupid ipad! Kathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13670331855264293102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6601965449271960079.post-85891039772688801592014-09-18T06:32:35.230-07:002014-09-18T06:32:35.230-07:00Thank you Rebecca! I just had a vision of a woman ...Thank you Rebecca! I just had a vision of a woman w/ kids listening to us talk about medications and injections and times sex, hahaha oh that would make them very uncomfortable. Since half of the women there know we are living w/ infertility I think it was just that they weren't even thinking about what they were saying or that I was there. A lot of it is also them not knowing what to do, which will be my next post ;) Kathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13670331855264293102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6601965449271960079.post-14438179845564651722014-09-18T06:28:18.487-07:002014-09-18T06:28:18.487-07:00Thank you Denise! You are so sweet! Yeah Mother...Thank you Denise! You are so sweet! Yeah Mother's Day Masses are a whole different thing, that's why we go to Latin Mass and it's not mentioned very much at all :) Kathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13670331855264293102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6601965449271960079.post-91683557080205454972014-09-18T06:25:41.459-07:002014-09-18T06:25:41.459-07:00It would also be hard sometimes to have the side c...It would also be hard sometimes to have the side conversations of planning play dates w/ one another. I don't blame them, it's just normal mama conversation. The group is advertised to women in general but the time is mid-morning. I was upset when I came home well more like very angry but that also could've been post peak hormones too ;) Kathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13670331855264293102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6601965449271960079.post-27540146926603787072014-09-18T06:21:25.431-07:002014-09-18T06:21:25.431-07:00Thanks Stephanie! I do have my book club which I l...Thanks Stephanie! I do have my book club which I love so I am very thankful for that! Kathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13670331855264293102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6601965449271960079.post-33877731930935452052014-09-17T19:59:57.965-07:002014-09-17T19:59:57.965-07:00Prayers for you as you remember Cecilia this month...Prayers for you as you remember Cecilia this month (and always). I am sorry that the Women's Group wasn't really a women's group. That hurts.<br />Love and prayers for you, my friend! <3All in His Perfect Timinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00300978285191861049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6601965449271960079.post-73952987310631824822014-09-17T19:16:36.558-07:002014-09-17T19:16:36.558-07:00I used to belong to a newcomer's group when we...I used to belong to a newcomer's group when we first moved out to where we live...all the women had children...except me and after a few years of just trying to meet people I gave up because the reality of IF was starting to hit us and I couldn't stand hearing the other mom's complain or talk about play groups. I just couldn't relate so I stopped being involved. Soon after the group disbanded for no one had time to open their homes...too busy. So I'm with you on stopping the group...you do the group for socialization and enjoyment...when it makes you sad and depressed...time to find a new group that is a better fit for you. prayerfuljourneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15549430693172260600noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6601965449271960079.post-26112920613999904492014-09-17T18:14:10.270-07:002014-09-17T18:14:10.270-07:00Also sending prayers for you this month, as you gr...Also sending prayers for you this month, as you grieve the loss of your little one and her due date passes. Hugs.Mike Brummondhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15276797377377334510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6601965449271960079.post-10746945717716416562014-09-17T18:13:26.096-07:002014-09-17T18:13:26.096-07:00Such a real and beautiful post. You have a such an...Such a real and beautiful post. You have a such an open heart!!!! I totally agree and understand and have been in the same scenario before. I have learned the hard way that when hanging out with my "mom friends" it is better if we are hanging out one-on-one. That way I can share what I am going through, and they can share their struggles or vent about the struggles of being a mom. In groups of moms it is just too rough on me. I hope and pray that some day you can go and bring your little one to the group too. Mike Brummondhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15276797377377334510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6601965449271960079.post-7409927410056224242014-09-16T18:28:32.215-07:002014-09-16T18:28:32.215-07:00I'm so sorry about that whole situation. Glad ...I'm so sorry about that whole situation. Glad to hear you're protecting your heart and backing out for a while. I agree that it's the right choice. Hugs!Stephanie @ Blessed to Behttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15432625948200484509noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6601965449271960079.post-29201183262091851782014-09-16T16:18:29.294-07:002014-09-16T16:18:29.294-07:00I think you are right to guard your heart. With Ec...I think you are right to guard your heart. With Ecce Fiat, I'm mad for you that the comment was made that way.<br />I was talking with a friend recently and said, it would be the same if the rolls were reversed, if a super-fertile woman or a mother were the only one in the room of infertile women. They would feel uncomfortable and would know they had little to contribute to the conversation. Not because any suffering is better or worse than another, but because they are different. Only, that rarely happens, and so when we are the lone IFer, we look insensitive. And so, for much of the time it is best to just guard our own hearts.<br />Prayers and love for you my friend.Rebeccahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04738076740941616678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6601965449271960079.post-22743755567142724942014-09-16T16:08:25.054-07:002014-09-16T16:08:25.054-07:00Kat, I admire you for having gone this long. I wo...Kat, I admire you for having gone this long. I wouldn't have been able to. When I was your age and still single, I still had hopes of finding a good husband to have a family with. I even hated going to church on Mother's Day when I felt I was the only woman not being honored at Mass, let alone going somewhere where everyone else was experiencing what I wanted to and couldn't. You and Jack are both so loving and good that, in His time, God will surely allow a child to be blessed by being raised by you both.DeniseKayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15927328882790482842noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6601965449271960079.post-75832081618557730422014-09-16T08:34:10.999-07:002014-09-16T08:34:10.999-07:00Oh Kat, that sounds awful. The other women's b...Oh Kat, that sounds awful. The other women's behavior makes me mad, frankly. To make a reference about "moms" doing something when you were there, and they know you're not a mom...? If it's going to be a mom's group, focused on mom's (legitimate!) needs, then it should be advertised and treated as such. I'm not surprised at all that women who aren't moms don't stick around. There's no way I would be part of a group like that. I have many friends who are moms, and we talk together about *both* of our lives, their needs and mine. Praying you find another group better suited to your needs and more open to non-moms!ecce fiatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6601965449271960079.post-25880048135479473312014-09-16T07:51:00.309-07:002014-09-16T07:51:00.309-07:00As tough as it was being there and making the deci...As tough as it was being there and making the decision to leave the group, it sounds like it is really the right choice for you at this time. I hope and pray that you are able to find some other group where you kind find friendship and fellowship.Stephanie Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08435698159183117354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6601965449271960079.post-52770095312589065362014-09-16T07:20:35.748-07:002014-09-16T07:20:35.748-07:00Yes, exactly! Their struggles are very real and th...Yes, exactly! Their struggles are very real and they should be able to share them. I am just not sure if I need to be there for a group pow wow about raising kids right now. Kathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13670331855264293102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6601965449271960079.post-29549636740398080302014-09-16T01:50:33.028-07:002014-09-16T01:50:33.028-07:00That's really tough. It's hard when their ...That's really tough. It's hard when their struggles are very real and need to be addressed, but so opposite of those of us that do not have children. It's hard not only to face our own day to day struggles in such a way that it feels like getting beaten with them, but added to it is the isolation of that lack of common ground. Sounds like you are making the right decision for you at this timeCatholic Mutthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10254315970336710941noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6601965449271960079.post-5413063206743331842014-09-15T23:02:52.305-07:002014-09-15T23:02:52.305-07:00So difficult! Sorry that you had to go through thi...So difficult! Sorry that you had to go through this! DM + AM https://www.blogger.com/profile/16375817644349023976noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6601965449271960079.post-38127665041767707522014-09-15T16:52:51.950-07:002014-09-15T16:52:51.950-07:00so sorry.so sorry.Lucky as Sunshinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02303329791458313858noreply@blogger.com